Terms and levels 

 

I am sometimes at a loss to describe a horse.  There simply IS no industry standard.  If I say a horse is for a beginner, I mean for the hang on and cry group, and many rider will want something with a little more motivation.  But if I say a horse is for an advanced beginner or intermediate, that is often confused with "this thing is going to kill you unless you are used to riding bulls!!"  So, tongue in cheek, I will try to define what I mean when we are talking about a horse!!

Term What we mean

What you may find other mean when they use the term!

Quiet, gentle and sound Quiet, gentle and sound I have to say something that sounds good!
Will carry any rider Lets take a look at the EXACT needs of the rider You can ride ANY horse, the question is for how long.
kid safe Lets find something that wouldn't scare them. Does this seller even LIKE kids?
potential People should pay for what they get, not what they might get if they work hard. I can't ride the thing, maybe you will have better luck!!
have done lots of ground work. Great basic, but the horse needs to RIDE We are afraid to get on it!
lazy quiet personality, will default to stop if anything happens. Great beginner horses. Old, sick or thin!  Wait until he gets fattened up and feels good.
work ethic likes to work, happy to be doing something, enjoys riding How does a horse have a work ethic?
lack of work ethnic bad attitude, doesn't like working or co-operating with people, often comes when a horse is broke late or doesn't have good early training. These horses are buckers, baulkers, sour tempered and difficult.  They will often go well for short periods of time, then revert to bad habits to get out of continued work. These horses are cheap to buy, there are a lot of them, and we can sell it to YOU cheap!!
motor Good for the rider who likes a good gallop, who wants a horse to move out, likes to do long well paced trail rids, wants some level of performance such as jumping, hunting or cattle work. When you get on, make if fast before he takes off, and you can't stop this horse without a rope and a post!!
sophistication Horse will flex well, work school patterns, canter nice small circles, gives to the bridle, responds well, has good training. Great for ring work or lessons for advanced beginners or above, not necessary for riders who will trail ride only. We have no idea what that means
We just lost interest in horses We have a lot of interest in our horses, we are professionals. They lost interest because every time they tried to ride it they got thrown!
Beginner the hang on and cry group. These horses will default to STOP when the rider is off balance.  As the rider gets better, they horse will go more.  Sometimes people think these horses are too frustrating to beginners...I'd rather have frustrated, you can always get a crop, then SCARED when the horse makes the decision to move out.  Even well trained horses will go if they get the cue to go, how do they understand that the rider was just off balance.  Beginner riders often bounce, their hands jump, they grip with their heels in the Happy Frog position. A beginner horse must be quiet enough to tolerate that.  These riders have not ridden or have ridden very little. The easiest way to sell a horse, label it beginner safe.
Advanced Beginner These riders can keep their hands somewhat steady, they can keep their heels out of the horse's side and they have good balance.  They don't understand leg or seat cues, and they often get timid if the horse doesn't do what they want on the first try.  They are learning to canter, but not completely confident in it. Even WE can't pass this off as a beginner horse.
Confidence builder These riders may KNOW more than beginners, but they need the same kind of horse.  They want a horse that will slow down or stop if the cues aren't correct, they don't like horses who take the initiative, and they tense up if there is anything unexpected.  They really need a horse at a level or two below their ability until they can develop confidence.  Lack of confidence is the number one problem with riders. Horse is too old or crippled to do anything.
Low intermediate Rider has good balance, and good confidence.  They canter, can get a lead. They want to move on with horses and do more things like showing, team penning, competition trail riding.  They have started understanding leg.  They may hop over a single fence at a time at lower than 2 1/2 ft.  Many recreational trail riders may have the SKILL to be on this level horse, but they don't WANT to be, they WANT something that just goes along quietly. This horse is too much for us, so it must need a better rider.
Intermediate Intermediate riders have good confidence and enjoy a horse with a little motor.  They have good balance and may have good leg, although many intermediate trail riders don't use leg.  Intermediate riders may jump a course of 2 1/2 ft or more, and of six to eight fences without stopping.  They have experience with riding that requires some skill and control, and they may understand collection principals. Intermediate trail riders often go on long trail rides that require a horse with more motor, they want a horse with a good work ethic. Get this horse going and you can't get him stopped and he doesn't have any steering.  In the canter, he will either buck going into it, or run off. He has some bad habits, don't put him in the rear of a group and don't try to go out alone unless you have some strong legs and a good seat!  Or maybe he will just try to buck you off!
Advanced intermediate Advanced intermediate riders have some experience training horses and they like a horse that has a good work ethic.  They ride with great confidence and enjoy working with horses on a variety of levels.  They have ridden a large number of horses and can adapt to the horse. We sometimes have horses that we will wholesale to these riders, but you wouldn't find them on our regular sale list. When you come to look at this horse, we might get it saddled for you, but we sure aren't riding it first!!  Better have some glue in your seat and a lot of guts.

EVERYONE WANTS QUIET, HONEST, RELIABLE HORSE and they are harder to find then a water hole in the desert ~ they're out there, but you better know where to look!!!  So, our less expensive horses are going to have a little more motor and our "bombproof" horses are going to be more expensive.  If they are just trail horses, they are less expensive, but they aren't going to show as well in the ring because they aren't "sophisticated" (Which means they are used to working in the ring and doing schooling patterns, cantering circles slowly, staying on the rail ~ which isn't natural to a horse.) 

It is easier to take a ring horse out on the trail if he is well broke than to put a trail horse in the ring.  You don't lope circles out on the trail, you don't need a lot of steering, because you make turns not circles. The horse seems to drift or wander because it no longer has a marked trail, other horses or simply the perspective of open ground.  The rail of the ring cuts that perspective.  He has no trail, no other horses, no line of sight and he has no idea that the rail is the guideline.  So he drifts into the center and appears untrained.  Theses are often GREAT trail horses and they do well outside the ring.  AND they are cheaper because they don't have the duel purpose of being able to do lessons and ring riding.  Take them out in the field and ride them, you will find some great bargains if all you want to do is ride on the trail. And we have some VERY nice bargains if you want a well trained trail horse will be perfect for the rider who enjoys a good gallop out on the trail. 

Be assured that even if the horse will enjoy a good gallop,  ALL OF OUR HORSES WILL STOP AND STEER.

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This site is updated several times a week, including whenever we add or sell a horse, or when we learn something new about a horse.  We are constantly riding, trying, testing, showing and trail riding our horses so we know what they really are before we sell them.